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| + | Is Starscream really the second in command though? I mean, he certainly takes over whenever Megs is incapacitated, but I don't believe that Megatron ever gave him control over a friggin' Planet. |
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| − | '''Super-God Masterforce''' is a Transformers franchise from Japan in 1988. Breaking radically from the previous series, [[Headmasters]], which was a continuation of the American series, Masterforce featured all-new characters and locations, dropping many of the futuristic elements, and focusing on human characters that bonded with robot bodies. |
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| + | So what I'm suggesting here is that Shockwave is the actual second-in-command, not Starscream. Unless it is actually written somewhere that Starscream IS the second in command. In which case my comment is cheerfully withdrawn.--[[User:OctopusPrime|Octopus Prime- King of the Road!]] 23:00, 12 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | Fans have a love/hate relationship with Masterforce. It's notably well-written and character-driven, but probably the most ''different'' of any Transformers series. Notably, the series was unafraid of the occasional huge coincidence in setting up its premise, though it tried not to draw attention. |
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| + | Point. |
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| − | The ''Masterforce'' franchise featured the following primary components: |
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| + | Maybe I should have said "Second in Command of the Forces on Earth". Also, when Megatron fell in the movie, it was He, and not Shockwave, who took command. But you're right, I'm not sure if it is ever actually stated, or in fact correct. |
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| − | *[[Masterforce (toyline)|A toyline]] |
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| − | *[[Masterforce (cartoon)|A cartoon series]] |
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| − | *[[Masterforce (manga)|A manga series]] |
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| − | ==Backstory== |
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| + | Yeah, Everyone assumes that Ol' Mr. Screamy is the second in command, but I'm pretty sure that that is only based on the fact that he gets the most screen time (as he should, because he's the best Decepticon). |
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| − | A pair of Autobot and Decepticon ships crashed on [[Earth]] {{Tooltip|between 2000 and 4000 years ago| based in-series history}}. They fought, and the Decepticons were imprisoned until the modern era. |
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| + | Also, didn't he get the title of Leadership because he beat the ever loving crap out of all the other Decepticons?--[[User:OctopusPrime|Octopus Prime- King of the Road!]] 00:04, 13 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | ===Autobots=== |
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| − | The Autobots are led by [[Metalhawk]]. When they were on Earth, the Autobots adopted outer [[Pretenders| Pretender shells]] that allowed them to pass for [[human]]. They were impressed by the great compassion and goodness displayed by the otherwise primitve natives. |
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| + | Actually, we never see Starscream enter that battle, its just we see them arguing over it, and then when we're back on Cybertron, Starscream is the victor, thou we never even saw him make his stake in the previous scene. Sounds more like he waited for everyone else to beat the ever loving poop out of each other, then beat the remaining love out of an already injured candidate... G1 Cartoon Starscream never did anything that didn't make him look like an fool. And his voice never helped. However, Energon and Galaxy Force Starscreams. Particually Galaxy Force. You can see he's planning it all out carefully, trying to wait until Master Megatron slips just enough for him to take over. And He could do so too. Never seen what Starscream was like in the comics though. How was he there? |
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| − | After the Decepticons' defeat, the Autobots spread themselves around the world, living as humans. They kept contact with one another, and tasked themselves with investigating unexplained phenomena and disasters, keeping a watchful eye for the Decepticon Pretenders possible escape. |
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| − | ''The Autobot Pretenders were on Earth during the Decepticon awakening in 1984 and everything that followed. There is nothing to indicate they ever made contact with the other Autobots on Earth, but they were in regular communications with the offworld Autobots after [[Headmasters]].'' |
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| − | Megalhawk's vigil brought him into contact with Japanese scientist [[Professor Goh]], and eventually his son [[Shuta Goh]], who became a [[Headmaster Junior]] shortly after the Decepticon Pretenders escaped. |
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| + | Considerably whinier then he was in the G1 cartoon. Though he DID attain near-Godhood for a brief time (thanks to the vast powers of the Underbase), during which time he pretty well destroyed both sides of the war. Then he got greedy, took more power and it blew him up. Inexplicably, despite being pivotal in the near extinction of his own race, Megatron decided to revive Starscream with Pretender technology. |
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| + | Meg's never was very bright. |
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| − | They were later joined by the human Autobot [[Godmasters]], including [[Ginrai]], to whom Metalhawk would hand over primary command. By this point, the Autobot Masterforce was composed of more humans than Cybertronians. |
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| + | --[[User:OctopusPrime|Octopus Prime- King of the Road!]] 00:20, 13 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| + | Not quite as dim as G1-Season 3 Galvatron. |
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| − | The Autobots in Masterforce are characterised by their love and admiration of humanity and human culture. |
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| + | "Look! A Ghost!" <Bang Bang> |
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| + | "Look! A School Girl!" <Bang Bang> |
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| + | "Look! My Foot!" <Bang Bang, followed by screaming> |
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| − | ===Decepticons=== |
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| − | The Decepticons created demonic [[Pretender]] shells to terrify and dominate humans. Eventually defeated by the Autobots, they were imprisoned far apart from one another on Earth. |
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| + | I '''hate''' it when I forget to check the minor edit box. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 19:42, 15 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | In the modern era, the Decepticon Pretenders were awakened by [[Giga]] and [[Mega]], human Godmasters in the service of [[Devil Z]], an godlike alien inteligence with a long history of Decepticon patronage. |
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| + | :Yeah, I though you had rewritten the Titanium section, which I wouldn't haved minded as my description of his transforming WW toy is abit crap. Have I forgotten any G1 Starscream toys there? I think there was a Legends release of the Pretender inner robot, but bah, I don't have enough to say about. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:52, 15 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | ::The Pretender Starscream section already mentions the Legends release; I expanded it to match Bumblebee's entry. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 19:59, 15 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | ::: The Legends release should be given its own headers, as it was a separate release in America. In theory, you should be able to scroll down through the toy list and see every toy release in bold. (Well, minus foreign releases, since we tend to treat those as variants.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:20, 15 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | ::::Okay, I added a Legends entry, but I don't think its worth the bother adding a new picture for it, since its the same as the Pretender inner bot. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 21:12, 15 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | ===Tech spec numbers=== |
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| − | Devil Z sought to harness [[Chokon Power]], unifying the power of [[Transformers]], [[human]]s, and the [[Earth]] to create godlike beings. Periphrially, Devil Z wished to drive humans into a willing alliance with the Decepticons by threatening to destroy the delicate balance of life on Earth. |
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| + | Maddening! Pretender Starscream's TS numbers are clearly based on the correct ones, ie those given to Skywarp on the 1984 packaging. But AM Starscream, G2 Starscream and MW Starscream all use the ones on Starscream's 1984 packaging, ie the ones that actually belong to Thundercracker. Whyyyyy. -[[User:LV|LV]] 01:35, 11 February 2007 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 01:35, 11 February 2007
Is Starscream really the second in command though? I mean, he certainly takes over whenever Megs is incapacitated, but I don't believe that Megatron ever gave him control over a friggin' Planet.
So what I'm suggesting here is that Shockwave is the actual second-in-command, not Starscream. Unless it is actually written somewhere that Starscream IS the second in command. In which case my comment is cheerfully withdrawn.--Octopus Prime- King of the Road! 23:00, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Point. Maybe I should have said "Second in Command of the Forces on Earth". Also, when Megatron fell in the movie, it was He, and not Shockwave, who took command. But you're right, I'm not sure if it is ever actually stated, or in fact correct.
Yeah, Everyone assumes that Ol' Mr. Screamy is the second in command, but I'm pretty sure that that is only based on the fact that he gets the most screen time (as he should, because he's the best Decepticon).
Also, didn't he get the title of Leadership because he beat the ever loving crap out of all the other Decepticons?--Octopus Prime- King of the Road! 00:04, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Actually, we never see Starscream enter that battle, its just we see them arguing over it, and then when we're back on Cybertron, Starscream is the victor, thou we never even saw him make his stake in the previous scene. Sounds more like he waited for everyone else to beat the ever loving poop out of each other, then beat the remaining love out of an already injured candidate... G1 Cartoon Starscream never did anything that didn't make him look like an fool. And his voice never helped. However, Energon and Galaxy Force Starscreams. Particually Galaxy Force. You can see he's planning it all out carefully, trying to wait until Master Megatron slips just enough for him to take over. And He could do so too. Never seen what Starscream was like in the comics though. How was he there?
Considerably whinier then he was in the G1 cartoon. Though he DID attain near-Godhood for a brief time (thanks to the vast powers of the Underbase), during which time he pretty well destroyed both sides of the war. Then he got greedy, took more power and it blew him up. Inexplicably, despite being pivotal in the near extinction of his own race, Megatron decided to revive Starscream with Pretender technology.
Meg's never was very bright. --Octopus Prime- King of the Road! 00:20, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Not quite as dim as G1-Season 3 Galvatron. "Look! A Ghost!" <Bang Bang> "Look! A School Girl!" <Bang Bang> "Look! My Foot!" <Bang Bang, followed by screaming>
I hate it when I forget to check the minor edit box. --Andrusi 19:42, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, I though you had rewritten the Titanium section, which I wouldn't haved minded as my description of his transforming WW toy is abit crap. Have I forgotten any G1 Starscream toys there? I think there was a Legends release of the Pretender inner robot, but bah, I don't have enough to say about. --FFN 19:52, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
- The Pretender Starscream section already mentions the Legends release; I expanded it to match Bumblebee's entry. --Andrusi 19:59, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
- The Legends release should be given its own headers, as it was a separate release in America. In theory, you should be able to scroll down through the toy list and see every toy release in bold. (Well, minus foreign releases, since we tend to treat those as variants.) --ItsWalky 20:20, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, I added a Legends entry, but I don't think its worth the bother adding a new picture for it, since its the same as the Pretender inner bot. --FFN 21:12, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
- The Legends release should be given its own headers, as it was a separate release in America. In theory, you should be able to scroll down through the toy list and see every toy release in bold. (Well, minus foreign releases, since we tend to treat those as variants.) --ItsWalky 20:20, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
- The Pretender Starscream section already mentions the Legends release; I expanded it to match Bumblebee's entry. --Andrusi 19:59, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Tech spec numbers
Maddening! Pretender Starscream's TS numbers are clearly based on the correct ones, ie those given to Skywarp on the 1984 packaging. But AM Starscream, G2 Starscream and MW Starscream all use the ones on Starscream's 1984 packaging, ie the ones that actually belong to Thundercracker. Whyyyyy. -LV 01:35, 11 February 2007 (UTC)