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| + | :''Eagle Killer'' is a [[Beastformer]] in the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].'' |
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| − | I question the placement of the BW Manga between the US BW and BM material. We have been aligning most entries according to continuity, then series. (See [[Hot Shot (UT)]], for example. Cartoon:Armada, Energon, Cybertron; then Comic:Armada, Energon.) That way, the summaries of stories flow logically and chronologically. I would probably prefer to move the BW Manga section after Universe. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC) |
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| + | '''Eagle Killer''' is one of the [[Decepticon]] Beastformers fighting a war on the planet [[Beest]]. He was born in Gape Moodo, which is at the northern end of the country of Nirmudo. His role in the Decepticon Beastformer forces is a sky maneuvers soldier. He also holds the rank of King of Nirmudo over Emperor [[Baboon]], who fights on the opposite side in the war. Okay then. |
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| − | Agreed and done. Why is Legends seperate? Is it for the Armadqa tale? is she even IN The Armada tale? Or are was counting Furman's contribution as a seperate continuity? |
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| − | In EITHER case, the banner ''Legends'' is an inaccurate container-continuity for the tales it contains, becase a character might appear in SEVERAL Legends tales, in multiple continuities. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC) |
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| + | :''English name'': Harrier Hawk |
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| − | In the case of Legends, I'd say put the story/stories they appear in's title in italics as a header above the descriptive paragraph. - [[User: M Sipher]] |
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| + | ==Toys== |
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| − | ==Japanese Voice actress== |
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| + | *'''Eagle Killer''' (Beastformer, 1987) |
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| + | :''Beast ID number'': '''70''' |
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| + | : Eagle Killer is an anthropomorphic gray bird of prey in high-tech dark blue armor. He comes with his "Skeleton Killer" sword. He has one of three [[rubsign]]s on his chest, revealing the elemental power of fire, water, or wood. |
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| − | So I'm looking at the decomposing corpse of TFPulp. http://web.archive.org/web/20041019195546/www.tfpulp.com/archive/seiyuu/seiyuu.html She's all the way down at the bottom. Says Black Widow's voice actress was "Ryoka Yuzuki aka Kanori Kadomatsu aka Ayumi Nagashii". Ryoka Yuzuki would appear to be her real name. Is the one listed, Iwata, another alias? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 20:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC) |
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| + | ==External links== |
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| − | Fixed! [[User:Evan1975|Evan1975]] 21:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC) |
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| + | *[http://www.toyarchive.com/BattleBeasts/BattleBeasts1.html Battle Beasts info at Super Toy Archive] |
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| − | ==Blackarachnia's Telekinesis and it's connection to Tarantulas== |
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| − | I'm seriously getting tired of being accused of vandalism whenever I post that BA's TM2 telekinesis is likely a product of her mind link with Tarantulas upgraded. I've been told repeatedly that it's an 'unsubstantiated rumor', but I've seen similar theories about multiple entries in this site that have far less evidence to back them up than this has. |
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| − | While it's not stated directly, the evidence in-show obviously sets up the mind link as the source of the telekinesis: first, the link was stated as ''psychic'' in nature, not electronic or otherwise artificial, which is why Megatron didn't detect any transmissions being made when the link was being used. It was also very powerful, and worked both ways; not only was Tarantulas able to speak through BA with it ''and'' cause her mental pain, but she also acquired a lot of information from his memories, information that she retained after the link was severed. Plus, when BA threatened to kill herself via energon radiation if the link wasn't terminated, her anguish was visibly shared through the link by Tarantulas, and even he noted that, if BA ''did'' terminate herself, the link would've ensured his death, as well. There's also the debatable scene where Tarantulas forces himself inside BA's head after he's burned by Inferno, and had to download himself into his new TM body ''from BA's noggin'', which could meaning that the link was established by his ''literally inhabiting her mind''. Oh, and besides mutant spark-aided healing, I don't recall the show ''ever'' stating that the TM2 process granted a Transformer brand new abilities that they didn't have before, just upgrades to what they already had, meaning that the potential for BA's telekinesis had to already be there to begin with, and since BA was never even hinted at having the required mental faculties for psychokinesis, even before the mind-link, where else ''did'' she get it from? |
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| − | Yes, it's a theory, but it's a theory blatantly supported by the cartoon. Her eyes even glow the same color as when Tarantulas gained control of her during the link when she levitated the girder to dispatch Rampage, for crying out loud. If that doesn't solidify the "spider mindmeld alien upgrade" theory, then I dunno what does.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | :In no way is either telepathy or telekinesis a "powered up" version of the other. They are totally unrelated abilities aside from both being brain things. Precognition, clairvoyance, astral projection, etc., are also "psychic" brain things, but that doesn't mean they are related. Honestly, until Derik posted to my talk page about it saying, "they are both psychic abilities", I seriously had no idea why you would think they were connected. There are *tons* of types of psychic ability. All of the evidence you cite, other than the eye glow thing which might have something to it, is merely ''consistent with'' your theory; it doesn't ''support'' you. All the same evidence is also consistent with her telekinesis having nothing to do with Tarantulas. |
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| − | :Regarding eye-glow: Several characters over the course of the series had their eyes glow for various reasons. I don't recall what colors were used for these various effects. I wouldn't be surprised if unrelated instances of glowing eyes happened to use the same color from time to time, but admittedly I don't know that offhand. |
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| − | :--[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 23:14, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | ::What he said. And, as far as eye-glow is concerned, I'm WAY more inclined to chalk it up to "Mainframe knew how to do that effect" than them making some kind of conscious reference to an unrelated event practically a full season back. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | :::Which other Transformers were confirmed to have actual psychic abilities, especially in Beast Wars? Besides, the link not only allowed BA and Tarantulas to communicate telepathically, but it also allowed Tarantulas to TAKE OVER HER BODY and INFLICT PAIN ON HER PSYCHICALLY, neither of which are generally accepted as being strictly telepathic abilities. Plus, read any kind of fiction that includes psychic abilities, and you'll almost always see a telepath manifest telekinetic abilities of some form. It also makes far more sense than say...Primacron's Oracle assistant being THE Oracle of Beast Machines (which also has no evidence to support it, yet it's allowed in Primacron Oracle's article). Essentailly, all you're saying is Mainframe is too stupid to make self references of past subplots, which is interesting considering how they touched up on Tigatron and Airazor's abduction, the fate of Sentinel, BA's shell program, Tarantulas' hatred for the Vok...need I go on? Honestly, do you guys even watch the media whose wikis you monitor? |
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| − | :::: Dude, I've seen Beast Wars more times than I can count. I have it memorized. No where was it remotely implied that Blackarachnia got telekinesis powers from having a mind-link with somebody else. Those aren't even the same power! Telekinetics and telepaths are two completely different things! And please stop insulting people. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::Didn't one of the BotCon comics retcon the Oracle as being the assistant? I'm not sure of that. And typically, when we have fannon in an article, it is 1. in the trivia section, 2, is in it's own paragraph seperate from the cannon, and 3. is clearly stated as such. And even then, it's only included if it was notable in the fandom (aka, who was Dion built into, is Brawn dead or alive, who became Cyclonus, Scourge, and the Sweeps, etc. This is the only long discussion on this topic I've seen, ans you seem to be the only one who insists the two abilities are linked. Yes, you can say the fiction doesn't contridict it, but you can claim the same thing about Alpha Trion being a pimp before the rebellion against the Quintessons. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::BotCon comics never mentioned the G1 Oracle, I'm pretty sure. (Its name is known only from the script, so I wouldn't expect that sort of thing to show up.) Regardless, I've removed that bit from that page's trivia section. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 04:12, 11 June 2007
- Eagle Killer is a Beastformer in the Generation 1 continuity family.
Eagle Killer is one of the Decepticon Beastformers fighting a war on the planet Beest. He was born in Gape Moodo, which is at the northern end of the country of Nirmudo. His role in the Decepticon Beastformer forces is a sky maneuvers soldier. He also holds the rank of King of Nirmudo over Emperor Baboon, who fights on the opposite side in the war. Okay then.
- English name: Harrier Hawk
Toys
- Eagle Killer (Beastformer, 1987)
- Beast ID number: 70
- Eagle Killer is an anthropomorphic gray bird of prey in high-tech dark blue armor. He comes with his "Skeleton Killer" sword. He has one of three rubsigns on his chest, revealing the elemental power of fire, water, or wood.